Thursday, 16 August 2012

This is an Atlantico interview with Mohamed Douhane, described as a police commander and member of the national office of "Synergie officiers", a trade union for police officers. As you would expect from someone called Mohamed, the issue of Islam is not raised, nor even that of immigration. For him it's all about young delinquents confronting authority. But the interview still has some interesting information nonetheless.

It presents a picture of a France being transformed into a third-world country as it is repopulated by third-worlders. Civilisation retreats. Entropy advances. The multicultists told us everything would be fine as long as everyone obeyed the law. But everyone doesn't obey the law, and we lack the means to effectively combat lawlessness on such a scale.

Multicultists have an excessive faith in the power of the institutions of state (the law, the education system, government propaganda, etc.) to shape behaviour. But the harsh truth is that a country is not its institutions. A country is the people in it.
Atlantico : For several weeks the Post Office has no longer been distributing packages in certain streets in a district of Carrières-sous-Poissy (Yvelines) for safety reasons. This isn’t the first time this has happened. Does this phenomenon surprise you?

Mohamed Douhane : All the violence that affects bus drivers, employees of the Post Office, doctors, emergency medical staff … is recurrent and of long standing. It started in the early 80s, in the context of the appearance of urban violence, in particular in the Lyon region. The towns Vénissieux and Villeurbanne were particularly affected.

Since then, it hasn’t stopped growing across the entire national territory.

Are certain regions particularly affected?

It started in the Lyon region then moved to the Paris region in the 90s. In 1991 in Sartrouville, there was violence after the death of an 18-year-old“jeune” shot in a shopping centre by a security guard. Then, there was Mantes-la-Jolie… A whole cycle of violence that occurred after the deaths of some “jeunes”. Then there was the episode of urban violence in November 2005 which had a high media profile. Since then, it has occurred across the entire country, in towns both in the Paris region and in the provinces: Melun, Avigon, Rouen… Each time, the death of a “jeune” is the event that triggers rioting.

But in the case of districts not being serviced by the Post Office, it’s more a question of day-to-day insecurity than riots.

The urban riots occur within a context of generalised insecurity. They are a bit like a pressure cooker that explodes after a context of insecurity marked by low and medium-level delinquency rooted in the daily life of these districts.

All this violence that affects the police, postmen or bus drivers occurs within a cycle of defiance of authority. It’s a way for young delinquents to affirm their authority over a district. This hostility is characterised by stoning, skirmishes, aggressions… It mainly affects firemen and the police, but employees of the Post Office are also victims of day-to-day insecurity, and some emergency doctors refuse to enter certain districts.

To an extent we could understand that attacking police is a means of “challenging authority”, but bus drivers or doctors have nothing to do with the state, do they?

In fact, they’re attacking the authority of adults in general. Because it is often juveniles who are involved.

But are they not the first victims of their actions, when no postman, doctor, nurse wants to enter their district?

Actually they’re looking to assert their authority over a district. They want to substitute their law for that of the Republic, using violence. It’s a scorched earth logic.

Don’t forget in November 2005, there were dozens of public buildings burned. In Amiens, they burned a school and a crèche. And in November 2005, they burned a church. In them there is a will to contest the authority of the state: they are attacking the symbols of public power.


...Are there cities that are safe from this type of violence?

No. In the 70s, these districts were highly concentrated. Today, every city in France is liable to be struck by scenes of urban violence. All of them. Large, medium-sized or small. Look at a town like Méru, in l’Oise, which is part of the 15 Priority Security Zones announced by Manuel Valls. When you see Méru, a town classes in a gendarmerie zone, you wouldn’t say there is a problem there. But…

Scenes of violence like at Amiens, there will be others, there could be riots like in November 2005. Don’t forget that after that we had Villiers-Le-Bel or the confrontations in Gare du Nord in 2007. During the campaign, the media didn’t talk much about it in order not to give a boost to the right or far right, but it hasn’t disappeared for all that. There is not a single evening in France in which urban violence does not occur. Not an evening in which police officers are not attacked or waste bins burned. It is a recurrent and worrying phenomenon which is not going to be brought under control any time soon.

And it’s getting worse. The delinquents no longer hesitate to use firearms. In Villiers-Le-Bel, the police came under rifle fire – more than a hundred were injured. In Amiens, mortars were used. In the USA in a situation like that, there would have been 50 deaths.

Among the forces of order or the delinquents?

The delinquents.

So you’re saying the police in France aren’t responding vigorously enough?

No, there is a deployment doctrine which is different. In France, there is a dread of Malik Oussekine syndrome. We are afraid that the death of a “jeune” will trigger even more violent rioting.

But if the forces of order also responded to these violent riots, wouldn’t the trouble-makers end up calming down?

Yes. But it’s difficult to compare France and the USA. The relationship to authority is different there, and the application of punishment too.

In France, urban violence has been growing in scale for years, with judicial punishments that seem weak and inappropriate, and a juvenile justice system that is ineffective. After the riots in 2005, 50% of those arrested were juveniles. With a ridiculous application rate of punishments in certain areas.
Source: Atlantico

11 comments:

alas said...

You know France is fucked when the police are Muslimified as well as those who are rioting. And judging from the shooting in Toulouse, the army hasn't gotten away from the disease either.

Anonymous said...

In comparison
- Shaping European behavior

The director of the Norwegian police is
- a psychiatrist
- Labor PM Stoltenberg's best man
- former leader of labor AUF youth organization
- "Homo of the Year"
- the father of two surrogate children, produced in the US (illegal in Norway)

Anonymous said...

Nadir el Fassi couldn't get his medal in London because piece of champagne glass cut his heal on private French beach

Sueing owner of the private beach for thousands of Euros over his broken dreams

Anonymous said...

Never leave women, children or elderly to themselves in Eurabia!

Arlette of 75, is killed while checking her mailbox at the ground level of the block of flats in Mulhouse, East France

A friend had asked if she wanted to go up with her in the elevator, but Arlette just wanted to check the mail first. She was later, shortly after noon, found knocked out at the mail boxes.

http://www.fdesouche.com/316549-mulhouse-arlette-75-ans-tuee-coups-de-couteau-dans-un-hall-dimmeuble

Only today, there are several cases of violence to elderly, reported at fdsouche

Cheradenine Zakalwe said...

Fdesouche.com seems down most of the time now.

Anonymous said...

Multiculturalism is a religion. In spite of all the evidence that it doesn't work, in spite of the immense damage that it has inflicted, the people behind it refuse to acknowledge reality and keep on forcing it on the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

He just stepped down. Unfortunately he'll just be replaced by another politically-correct mediocrity. Stoltenberg is terrified that effective policing will, quote, "turn Norway into a police state." This is the philosophy that keeps Norwegian police forces undermanned and ineffective in the face of the greatest (and primarily immigrant-driven) crime wave in modern Norwegian history. Bringing the police up to snuff would be an admission that the brave new multicultural Norwegian society created by the Labour Party is a disastrous failure. Maintaining the lie that everything is working out just fine is much more important to Stoltenberg and his cronies than the lives and safety of the Norwegian people.

Anonymous said...

Cheradenine

I noticed the problem with fdsouche's front door. You'll get in looking for one of their windows.

Anonymous said...

Norwegian director of police steps down Thursday night, after a rushed meeting with all police chiefs of the country earlier in the day.

By this meeting he will be proving that he
- had the confidence of the country's police chiefs (his own words)
- had developed a plan for improvements in the police

After 22 July 2011 it became evident that he could no longer hold the position as Director of police.


Anonymous said...

@2242

I notice that you already had talked about this now, 2242

Besides, I fully agree with what you are saying.

2335

Anonymous said...

Boy(7) escaped individual of foreign origins, who tried to lure him into a car near Stavanger, Norway

The boy took refuge at REMA supermarket.

After this incident it has been decided that the children attending the after school lessons shall not walk home alone.

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